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Patrick Magnus Spence

Patrick Magnus Spence

Male 1891 - 1952  (61 years)


  • Name Patrick Magnus Spence  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
    Birth 08 May 1891  Aberdeen Find all individuals with events at this location   [4, 5, 6, 8
    • second son of James & Margaret Spence, of Stromness, Orkney. [2, 7]
    Military Service 1915 - 1919  Officer, Grenadier Guards  [2, 3
    Post/Rank/Title 1916  Captain  [2
    Marriage 20 Jan 1916  Christ Church, Ealing Find all individuals with events at this location   [1, 2, 4
    Helen Mary Sydney Jones,   b. 08 May 1894, Ajmer, India Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Dec 1975, Rose Hill Nursing Home, Dorking Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Post/Rank/Title aft 1919  Colonel  [9
    Occupation abt 1929 - 1939  24 Lombard St, London Find all individuals with events at this location ; Company Secretary  [8, 10, 11
    • Listed building, then the London offices of Royal Insurance Co.
    • Passenger on SS "Olympic" dep Southampton 17 Apr 1929 dest New York: Patrick Spence, 37 b Aberdeen, Secretary, UK residence Tidworth.
    • Passengers on SS "Aurania" dep Southampton 10 Sep 1932 dest Quebec: (1) Patrick M Spence, 41 b Aberdeen, Secretary, destination - Employer, Royal Insurance Co. Montreal, nearest relative - mother, Mrs Margaret Spence, The Furs, Driffield, Cirencester; (2) Margaret M S Spence, wife, 38 n Ajmer, India. Both previously visited Canada, Apr 1929, to Ritz Hotel, Montreal.
    • Border Crossing, Detroit, 21 Sep 1932 [overstamped "cancelled"]: Patrick M Spence, accompanied by Jas D Simpson, age 41y 4m, born Aberdeen, nationality Scot, race Scot, last perm res Reigate, destination San Francisco, Calif, going to Royal Insurance Co (branch), San Francisco, height 5ft 11in [?], hair Lt Br, eyes Br, nearest relative in country whence alien came - wife Helen, Reigate, port of landing Quebec, on SS Aurania, date 18 Sep 1932.
    • Passenger on Norddeutscher-Lloyd "Europa" arr Southampton 03 Nov 1932: Patrick M Spence, emb New York, 1st class, age 41, Insurance, 24 Lombard St, London, resid England.
    • Passenger on SS "Berengaria" dep Southampton 23 Oct 1935 dest New York: Patrick Magnus Spence, 44 b Aberdeen, Financial Secretary, nationality Britain, race Scotch, last residence Reigate.
      Similar entry for SS "Aquitania" 13 May 1936, occupation Secretary.
      Similar entry for RMS "Queen Mary" 28 Apr 1937, occupation Company Secretary.
      Similar entry for RMS "Queen Mary" 18 Mar 1939, occupation Secretary.
    • Passenger on RMS "Queen Mary" arr Southampton 31 May 1937: Patrick M Spence, emb New York, 46, Secretary, UK address Salmons Cross, Birgate [Reigate], Surrey, past res South Africa [error], future res England
    Residence abt 1932 - 1940  Salmon's Cross, Reigate Find all individuals with events at this location   [4, 12
    Occupation 1946  Public Company Secretary  [5
    • Passenger on Royal Mail Lines "Darro" arr London 17 Oct 1946: Patrick Magnus Spence emb Buenos Aires age 55 Public Company Secretary UK address Magnus Lodge, Reigate, Surrey, resid UK
    Residence 1946  Magnus Lodge, Reigate Find all individuals with events at this location   [5
    Residence 1952  155 Beach St, Deal Find all individuals with events at this location   [13
    Death 20 Sep 1952  Dover Find all individuals with events at this location   [6, 13
    Probate 05 Dec 1952  London Find all individuals with events at this location ; 29,543 19s. 1d.  [13
    • Spence Patrick Magnus of 155 Beach-street Deal died 20 September 1952 Probate London 5 December to Lloyds Bank Limited. Effects 29543 19s. 1d. [NPC]
    Notes 
    • For further information see:
      Those Dark Days - A Grenadier's story 1915-1919. By Magnus Spence. Published by Red Book 16 Apr 2011.
      The unusual First World War story of Patrick Magnus Spence, a Grenadier Guards officer who survived three years of intense action - five major battles including The Somme and Third Battle of Ypres. Based on original notes and trench maps.
      I am Spence's grandson, and I wrote this for family, but it may also be of interest to others wanting a new perspective on what one of Spence's soldiers called 'those dark days'.
    Person ID I0838  Tatham | Christopher branch | Spouse
    Last Modified 27 May 2014 

    Family Helen Mary Sydney Jones,   b. 08 May 1894, Ajmer, India Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Dec 1975, Rose Hill Nursing Home, Dorking Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years) 
    Marriage 20 Jan 1916  Christ Church, Ealing Find all individuals with events at this location   [1, 2, 4
    • On the 20th Jan., at Christ Church, Ealing, by Rev. E. M. Lance, Prebendary of Wells Cathedral and Vicar of Barrow Gurney, uncle of the bride, Patrick Magnus Spence, 5th Res. Battn. Grenadier Guards, second son of James Spence, Esq., Stromness, Orkney, to Helen Mary Sydney Jones, elder daughter of the late Henry Sydney Jones, P.W.D., Ajmer, India, and step-daughter of Mrs. Sydney Jones, Ajmer House, Ealing. [The Times]
    Children 
    +1. Jean Mary Spence,   b. 26 Jan 1919, Glen Isla, Oatlands Park, Weybridge Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 08 May 2014  (Age 95 years)
    +2. Living
    +3. Ann Elizabeth Spence,   b. 27 Oct 1923, 17 Redcliffe Square, South Kensington Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1998, Ashford Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)
    +4. Kenneth Magnus Spence,   b. 21 Nov 1929, Common's Corner, Tadworth Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Jan 1989, Hammersmith Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years)
    Last Modified 27 May 2014 
    Family ID F1760  Family Group Sheet

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    Link to Google MapsBirth - 08 May 1891 - Aberdeen Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - < - 20 Jan 1916 - Christ Church, Ealing Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 20 Jan 1916 - Christ Church, Ealing Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Company Secretary - abt 1929 - 1939 - 24 Lombard St, London Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - abt 1932 - 1940 - Salmon's Cross, Reigate Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1946 - Magnus Lodge, Reigate Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1952 - 155 Beach St, Deal Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 20 Sep 1952 - Dover Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsProbate - 29,543 19s. 1d. - 05 Dec 1952 - London Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S02] BMD Index, marriage reg Brentford, 1Q1916.

    2. [S05] The Times, marriage notice, 22 Jan 1916.

    3. [S62] The Family of Christopher and some others.

    4. [S03] Family Members, MAS.
      Magnus Spence, Those Dark Days - A Grenadier's story 1915-1919, publ 2011.

    5. [S12] Passenger Lists, Darro, 17 Oct 1946.

    6. [S02] BMD Index, death reg Dover, 3Q1952.
      age 61

    7. [S12] Passenger Lists, Aurania, 10 Sep 1932.

    8. [S12] Passenger Lists, Berengaria, 23 Oct 1935.

    9. [S13] thePeerage.com.

    10. [S12] Passenger Lists, Europa, 03 Nov 1932.

    11. [S12] Passenger Lists, Queen Mary, 31 May 1937.

    12. [S12] Passenger Lists, Aurania, 18 Sep 1932.

    13. [S14] National Probate Calendar.