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Thomas Pilkington Norris

Male abt 1892 - 1960  (~ 68 years)



  • Name Thomas Pilkington Norris  [1, 2, 3
    Birth abt May 1892  Reading Find all individuals with events at this location   [2, 3, 4
    Residence Mar 1901  St Bartholomew's Vicarage, Reading Find all individuals with events at this location   [5
    Education abt 1905 - 1911  Rugby School Find all individuals with events at this location   [4, 6
    Residence Apr 1911  2 Horton Crescent, Rugby Find all individuals with events at this location ; patient in school sanatorium  [4
    Decoration abt 1914 - 1918  MC  [7
    Military Service abt 1914 - 1918  Lieut, Royal Engineers  [7
    • WW1 Army Medal Rolls Index Cards: only corresponding entry:
      T P Norris, Cpl 3 Signal Coy RE , later commissioned Captain, medals: 1914 star; British War medal; Victory medal; clasp & roses; enlisted 16 Aug 1914; E Africa 30 Nov 1916; address (1) Balfour House, Finsbury Pavement, London EC2 [office block with many tenants over the years]; (2) The Bower, Bromley, Kent. [No mention of MC; rank Captain not Lieut.]
    Marriage 30 Apr 1918  St Cuthbert, Philbeach Gardens, Earls Court Find all individuals with events at this location   [1, 7, 8
    Elsa Mary Tatham,   b. 25 Jul 1895, Nettlestone, St John's Rd, East Molesey Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. abt Nov 1979, Watford Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Name Change abt 1923  Thomas Pilkington Watt Norris  [9
    • Thomas & Elsa Norris took the additional name Watt in memory of their benefactor Adelaide Watt.
    Residence abt 1925  Stokke, Radlett Find all individuals with events at this location   [1
    Occupation abt 1950  Personnel Manager  [6, 10
    • worked as personnel manager for large company. [MRT]
    Residence - 1960  The Heath, Redbourn Find all individuals with events at this location   [9
    The Heath, Redbourn
    The Heath, Redbourn
    Home of Thomas Pilkington Norris and Elsa Mary Tatham in 1960
    Death 21 Nov 1960  St Albans Find all individuals with events at this location ; Cause: Accident  [3, 9, 10
    • On November 21st, 1960, as the result of an accident, Thomas Pilkington Watt Norris, husband of Elsa Mary, of The Heath, Redbourn, Herts. Funeral private. Memorial service at Redbourn Parish Church, Monday, November 28th, at 12 noon. [The Times, 23 Nov 1960]
    • Died on the way to hospital. [NPC]
    Probate 28 Aug 1961  London Find all individuals with events at this location ; 45,466 4s. 5d.  [10
    • (1) Norris Thomas Pilkington Watt of The Heath Redbourn Hertfordshire died 21 November 1960 on the way to The City Hospital Normandy Road St. Albans Hertfordshire Probate (save and except settled land) Wakefield 20 February to Elsa Mary Watt Norris widow. Effects 15771 16s. 5d. Further Grant P.R. 28 August 1961.
      (2) Norris Thomas Pilkington Watt of The Heath Redbourn Hertfordshire died 21 November 1960 on the way to The City Hospital Normandy Road St. Albans Hertfordshire Probate (limited to settled land) London 28 August to sir Douglas Stephenson Branson K.B.E., C.B. solicitor John Michael Foxley Norris farmer and John Francis Martin de Bartolome solicitor. Effects 31794 8s. Former Grant Wakefield 20 February. [NPC]
    Notes 
    • Thomas Pilkington Norris. living at Stokke, Radlett, Herts., he is now, in June, 1923, the owner of and will shortly take up residence at Speke Hall, near Liverpool, - built by an ancestor in the time of Queen Elizabeth and gambled away in 1700 by a descendant, to a Liverpool merchant named Watt. In 1922, Miss Adelaide Watt, of Speke Hall, dau. and heiress of Richard Watt, Esq., d. 1865, of Speke, and Bishop Burton, co. York, by Adelaide, dau. of Wm. Hignett, Esq., returned the ancestral property by Will, having ascertained his record from Rugby days, to the above Thomas Pilkington Norris, who had never previously heard of her. What a delightful romance!
      For an illustrated account of Speke Hall and the Norris family from the 14th century, and also of Miss Watt's disposition of the property, see Country Life, Jan.7 & 14, 1922. These articles, however, need considerable revision. The new edn. of the Encyc, Brit., art. House, has an illustration of Speke Hall, near Liverpool. [Curtis]
    • The above account given by Curtis in 1925 is not reflected in that of the National Trust in 2013. According to that account the Norris family lived at Speke from the late 12th century. The present hall is the result of many phases of building, and culminated in Edward Norris's Demesne in 1568 and construction of the north range and chapel in 1598, extending the south range and including priest holes. After Edward's death in 1606 the Norris family fortunes declined, and in 1650 the whole estate was sequestered by the Commonwealth. Thomas Norris regained the land and rights in 1660, but eventually the estate passed by marriage to the Beauclerk family in 1731, who neglected the hall and estate until it was sold to Richard Watt in 1795. The Watt family restored and improved the hall and estate up to the death of Adelaide Watt in 1921. The estate was then left in the hands of trustees until 1942, when a clause in Adelaide's will left it to the National Trust.
    • The two accounts are not necessarily inconsistent. Clearly Adelaide Watt left an important legacy to Tom Norris: he added her name to his own, and when he died he left substantial settled property. However no evidence has been found that he took formal possession of Speke Hall or ever resided there.
      The story that Speke Hall was gambled away in 1700, by a Norris descendant to a Liverpool merchant named Watt, was still current in the Tatham family in the 1960s, but has not been confirmed.
      Further research is needed, starting perhaps with Adelaide Watt's will (proved 20 Dec 1921; effects 321,845 14s. 11d.).
    Person ID I0053  Tatham | Meaburn branch | Spouse
    Last Modified 17 Sep 2013 

    Father Edward John Norris,   b. 10 Jun 1860, Castle Church, Stafford Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Nov 1940, Dunedin, Bath Rd, Reading Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years) 
    Mother Nina Catherine Sturges,   b. abt Aug 1862, Paddington Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Oct 1951, Ruscombe House, Twyford Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 89 years) 
    Marriage abt Aug 1886  Wokingham Find all individuals with events at this location   [11, 12, 13
    Notes 
    • also dau Eleanor Lushington Norris, b Gt Marlow abt 1890. [1911 census; NPC]
    Family ID F0027  Family Group Sheet

    Family Elsa Mary Tatham,   b. 25 Jul 1895, Nettlestone, St John's Rd, East Molesey Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. abt Nov 1979, Watford Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years) 
    Marriage 30 Apr 1918  St Cuthbert, Philbeach Gardens, Earls Court Find all individuals with events at this location   [1, 7, 8
    • The marriage arranged between Lieutenant T.P. Norris, R.E., and Elsa Mary, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Tatham, of The Towers, Bromley, Kent, will take place at St. Cuthbert's, Philbeach-gardens, Earl's Court, at 2.15 on April 30. All friends will be made very welcome. [The Times, 20 Apr 1918]
    • On the 30th April, at St Cuthbert's, Philbeach-gardens, by the Very Revd. the Dean of York [William Foxley-Norris], cousin of the bridegroom, Lieut T P Norris, R.E., M.C., son of the Revd. and Mrs. E. J. Norris, St, Bartholomew's Vicarage, Reading, to Elsa Mary, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. G. A. R. Tatham, The Towers, Bromley, Kent [The Times, 04 May 1918]
    • Eileen and Barbara were away from Monday to Thursday at Elsa's wedding in town. Barbara must have looked very sweet in her little blue frock and wreath; she and her godfather Allen, who was best man, must have "run the show", according to Eileen. [Silvia Tatham, diaries]
    Last Modified 23 Nov 2011 
    Family ID F0026  Family Group Sheet

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    Link to Google MapsBirth - abt May 1892 - Reading Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Mar 1901 - St Bartholomew's Vicarage, Reading Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsEducation - abt 1905 - 1911 - Rugby School Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - patient in school sanatorium - Apr 1911 - 2 Horton Crescent, Rugby Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - < - 30 Apr 1918 - St Cuthbert, Philbeach Gardens, Earls Court Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 30 Apr 1918 - St Cuthbert, Philbeach Gardens, Earls Court Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - abt 1925 - Stokke, Radlett Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - - 1960 - The Heath, Redbourn Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - Cause: Accident - 21 Nov 1960 - St Albans Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsProbate - 45,466 4s. 5d. - 28 Aug 1961 - London Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S04] H Curtis: Notes for a Pedigree of the Tathams of Co. Durham.

    2. [S02] BMD Index, birth reg Reading, 2Q1892.

    3. [S02] BMD Index, death reg St Albans, 4Q1960.
      Thomas P W Norris age 68

    4. [S01] Census, UK, 1911.
      age 19 b Reading

    5. [S01] Census, UK, 1901.

    6. [S03] Family Members, MRT.

    7. [S05] The Times, marriage notice, 04 May 1918.

    8. [S02] BMD Index, marriage reg Kensington, 2Q1918.

    9. [S05] The Times, death notice, 23 Nov 1960.

    10. [S14] National Probate Calendar.

    11. [S02] BMD Index, marriage reg Wokingham, 3Q1886.

    12. [S15] Cambridge University Alumni.

    13. [S05] The Times, obituary, 03 Dec 1940.